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	<title>Comments on: Now, you tell me. What&#8217;s the definition of an immigrant, an illegal immigrant a refugee and an asylum seeker</title>
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		<title>By: Clueless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clueless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s not hispanic! She&#039;s a dillusional 64 year old Brit, that doesn&#039;t love her own country. I hope she&#039;s not living in the US, but if she is, she&#039;s trying to determine which of the above she is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s not hispanic! She&#8217;s a dillusional 64 year old Brit, that doesn&#8217;t love her own country. I hope she&#8217;s not living in the US, but if she is, she&#8217;s trying to determine which of the above she is.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Caicos Turkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caicos Turkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Immigrant -- someone who has chosen for various reasons to move from his own country to another. It may not be a permanent arrangement and among the motives is being married to someone settled in that country, taking up employment in that country or retiring to that country using one&#039;s own resources.

Illegal immigrant -- someone who has not entered a country legitimately, but has either done so clandestinely or lied to the authorities about his situation. Some economies rely on illegal immigrants for cheap labour. Illegal immigrants may include overstayers -- people who remained after being refused leave by the authorities.

Refugee -- someone who has been forced to leave his own country by persecution or impossibility of remaining there because of some natural calamity. Given the choice (including the removal of the source of persecution or sorting out the natural calamity) he&#039;d rather go home. The reason for leaving his own country is more significant than the identity of his country of exile, i.e. the primary reason for going weighs more heavily than the choice of country of exile.

Asylum seeker -- someone who found it necessary to flee his own country because of conditions there rendered life intolerable for him or members of his family.  Such reasons may include persecution or targeting by kidnappers or other evil doers against which the police were powerless. They do not include economic pressure. Here the focus is on the country which has been chosen: he has left his own country with the intention of seeking right of abode in a particular destination. Under the various Conventions, he is supposed to seek refuge in the first &#039;safe&#039; country he comes to, but a surprising number arrive in the UK via all manner of other &#039;safe&#039; countries.  For &#039;safe&#039; read &#039;soft&#039; (landing place).&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Immigrant &#8212; someone who has chosen for various reasons to move from his own country to another. It may not be a permanent arrangement and among the motives is being married to someone settled in that country, taking up employment in that country or retiring to that country using one&#8217;s own resources.</p>
<p>Illegal immigrant &#8212; someone who has not entered a country legitimately, but has either done so clandestinely or lied to the authorities about his situation. Some economies rely on illegal immigrants for cheap labour. Illegal immigrants may include overstayers &#8212; people who remained after being refused leave by the authorities.</p>
<p>Refugee &#8212; someone who has been forced to leave his own country by persecution or impossibility of remaining there because of some natural calamity. Given the choice (including the removal of the source of persecution or sorting out the natural calamity) he&#8217;d rather go home. The reason for leaving his own country is more significant than the identity of his country of exile, i.e. the primary reason for going weighs more heavily than the choice of country of exile.</p>
<p>Asylum seeker &#8212; someone who found it necessary to flee his own country because of conditions there rendered life intolerable for him or members of his family.  Such reasons may include persecution or targeting by kidnappers or other evil doers against which the police were powerless. They do not include economic pressure. Here the focus is on the country which has been chosen: he has left his own country with the intention of seeking right of abode in a particular destination. Under the various Conventions, he is supposed to seek refuge in the first &#8217;safe&#8217; country he comes to, but a surprising number arrive in the UK via all manner of other &#8217;safe&#8217; countries.  For &#8217;safe&#8217; read &#8217;soft&#8217; (landing place).<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: mikehockhurts</title>
		<link>http://www.theasylumcafe.com/refugee-asylum/now-you-tell-me-whats-the-definition-of-an-immigrant-an-illegal-immigrant-a-refugee-and-an-asylum-seeker/comment-page-1#comment-1143</link>
		<dc:creator>mikehockhurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What country are you from beaner? Gates are closed. Stay home and tell your kids to sell chicles and beads.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What country are you from beaner? Gates are closed. Stay home and tell your kids to sell chicles and beads.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Veritas</title>
		<link>http://www.theasylumcafe.com/refugee-asylum/now-you-tell-me-whats-the-definition-of-an-immigrant-an-illegal-immigrant-a-refugee-and-an-asylum-seeker/comment-page-1#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I use a generic term? &#039;An unwanted pain in the butt&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I use a generic term? &#8216;An unwanted pain in the butt&#8217;.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: American Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>immigrant, = perfectly legal

an illegal immigrant  = Law Breaker

refugee and an asylum seeker  = 
someytimes a combination of the two above but not always.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>immigrant, = perfectly legal</p>
<p>an illegal immigrant  = Law Breaker</p>
<p>refugee and an asylum seeker  =<br />
someytimes a combination of the two above but not always.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Bunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>immigrant - someone who has residential permit/visa to live in new country

illegal immigrant - someone who does not have permission to be resident - ie may have come on holiday visa and stayed, or sneaked in

Refugee - some one who comes into country because they cannot live in their country anymore and have fled - religious persecution, war, racial prejudice, poverty and don&#039;t want to return to own country

Asylum seeker - person who is officially recognised be governement of new country as a refugee and allowed to stay for set period of time (some not recognised and so stay as refugee but will be deported)&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>immigrant &#8211; someone who has residential permit/visa to live in new country</p>
<p>illegal immigrant &#8211; someone who does not have permission to be resident &#8211; ie may have come on holiday visa and stayed, or sneaked in</p>
<p>Refugee &#8211; some one who comes into country because they cannot live in their country anymore and have fled &#8211; religious persecution, war, racial prejudice, poverty and don&#8217;t want to return to own country</p>
<p>Asylum seeker &#8211; person who is officially recognised be governement of new country as a refugee and allowed to stay for set period of time (some not recognised and so stay as refugee but will be deported)<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigrant</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum</a></p>
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		<title>By: joevette</title>
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		<dc:creator>joevette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Immigrant= a person that moves from place of birth to another country (generally a legal move)
illegal immigrant= much like an immigrant but they break immigration law and enter another country illegally.
refugee= A person that is displaced from home by war, natural disaster, or civil uprising.
asylum seeker- much like a refugee but they generally leave their area of birth due to fear of persecution and attempt to lobby for citizenship else where (often a legal way of entering the US).&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Immigrant= a person that moves from place of birth to another country (generally a legal move)<br />
illegal immigrant= much like an immigrant but they break immigration law and enter another country illegally.<br />
refugee= A person that is displaced from home by war, natural disaster, or civil uprising.<br />
asylum seeker- much like a refugee but they generally leave their area of birth due to fear of persecution and attempt to lobby for citizenship else where (often a legal way of entering the US).<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Immigrant - here legally, and gone through official channels in advance.

Illegal immigrant - not gone through official channels in advance, and not from a country from which citizens may claim asylum.

Refugee - someone fleeing unrest or war in country of origin with a view to returning.

Asylum seeker - someone from a country or region experiencing political turmoil, who is asking for leave to stay here indefinitely on the grounds their life would be in danger otherwise.

Immigrants from other EU nations cannot be deemed illegal and cannot claim asylum.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS everyone - I can tell from the Q, this person is definitely British, so isn&#039;t interested in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Immigrant &#8211; here legally, and gone through official channels in advance.</p>
<p>Illegal immigrant &#8211; not gone through official channels in advance, and not from a country from which citizens may claim asylum.</p>
<p>Refugee &#8211; someone fleeing unrest or war in country of origin with a view to returning.</p>
<p>Asylum seeker &#8211; someone from a country or region experiencing political turmoil, who is asking for leave to stay here indefinitely on the grounds their life would be in danger otherwise.</p>
<p>Immigrants from other EU nations cannot be deemed illegal and cannot claim asylum.<br /><b>References : </b><br />PS everyone &#8211; I can tell from the Q, this person is definitely British, so isn&#8217;t interested in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Lindsay Lohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Lindsay Lohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>immigrant = hot chick
illegal = fat chick
refugee/asylum = toss up between hot / fat chick&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>immigrant = hot chick<br />
illegal = fat chick<br />
refugee/asylum = toss up between hot / fat chick<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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