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		<title>By: srracvuee</title>
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		<dc:creator>srracvuee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if i had been you acsimo I would have belted the bastard and stood your ground no-one does that to our arm forces in their own homeland especially if the person shouldn&#039;t have been here&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if i had been you acsimo I would have belted the bastard and stood your ground no-one does that to our arm forces in their own homeland especially if the person shouldn&#8217;t have been here<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Ms Eddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, asylum seekers cannot claim benefits or work until they have received their leave to remain in th UK and as such are given refugee status.  They survive on an absolute pitence until then, so whilst I disagree with what I think your point is meant to be, I don&#039;t think you even understand the situation properly and the processes that takes someone from asylum seeker to refugee.  Many asylum seekers never receive leave to remain and are sent back to their country of origin if our government do not deem their claim for asylum as legitimate or think they have no grounds for asylum.

Secondly, asylum seekers have every right to seek asylum from persecution, torture and threats of death.  As one of the richest and most powerful countries in the world it is our responsibility to accomodate those running from persecution.  Just remember, we sent away many jews before the outbreak of the second world war back to the death camps; we should be ashamed of this.  Are you happy for people to be sent back to countries such as Zimbabwe where many would certainly be murdered upon their return?  The 1951 UN Convention on refugees was signed by 95 states, including Britain in the aftermath of the Second World War.  The true horror of the millions of Jews and others who were massacred having failed to secure refuge abroad had come to light and the signatories of the Convention, including the UK,  vowed to protect refugees so that such a tragedy would never happen again.

However, horrific violations of human rights continue to take place on a daily basis in scores of countries around the world.  If people are threatened, imprisoned, tortured or their life is placed in danger, it is their right to go to another country and seek protection under this Convention.  It may be their only hope.

Count yourself lucky that you live in a country where you can express your views, where campaigning for democracy will not see you locked up and tortured, or even murdered, to act without fear of retribution or death.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;www.asylumaid.org.uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, asylum seekers cannot claim benefits or work until they have received their leave to remain in th UK and as such are given refugee status.  They survive on an absolute pitence until then, so whilst I disagree with what I think your point is meant to be, I don&#8217;t think you even understand the situation properly and the processes that takes someone from asylum seeker to refugee.  Many asylum seekers never receive leave to remain and are sent back to their country of origin if our government do not deem their claim for asylum as legitimate or think they have no grounds for asylum.</p>
<p>Secondly, asylum seekers have every right to seek asylum from persecution, torture and threats of death.  As one of the richest and most powerful countries in the world it is our responsibility to accomodate those running from persecution.  Just remember, we sent away many jews before the outbreak of the second world war back to the death camps; we should be ashamed of this.  Are you happy for people to be sent back to countries such as Zimbabwe where many would certainly be murdered upon their return?  The 1951 UN Convention on refugees was signed by 95 states, including Britain in the aftermath of the Second World War.  The true horror of the millions of Jews and others who were massacred having failed to secure refuge abroad had come to light and the signatories of the Convention, including the UK,  vowed to protect refugees so that such a tragedy would never happen again.</p>
<p>However, horrific violations of human rights continue to take place on a daily basis in scores of countries around the world.  If people are threatened, imprisoned, tortured or their life is placed in danger, it is their right to go to another country and seek protection under this Convention.  It may be their only hope.</p>
<p>Count yourself lucky that you live in a country where you can express your views, where campaigning for democracy will not see you locked up and tortured, or even murdered, to act without fear of retribution or death.<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://www.asylumaid.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.asylumaid.org.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: BeArPaW_4709</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeArPaW_4709</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an American from across the pond living in the colonies I am saddened to hear your words.  I always thought the Brits had a good grip on things and we may learn from your example.

We have learned something.  We have learned to be cautious in granting political asylum to all who have migrated here legally or illegally.

What enrages me and concerns me is the disrespect of men and women in uniform.  We (the silent majority who support men in women in uniform) respect the views of others even if we are not in agreement. However, how can you respect those who show no respect for people in uniform?  To respect that view... spitting on a person who is trying to give back to their country is an oximoron.  They want respect but  refuse to show any themselves???

For their own safety, ayslum seekers should be held in detention, out of direct public contact until their case has been heard. Asylum seekers shouldn&#039;t be given any right of the host nation until a descision about their case has been reached.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;If an asylum seeker is fleeing their country for their own safety, doesn&#039;t the host nation have an obligation to provide that safety until a descision about their case has been reached. And... should the host nations keep the asylum seeker segragated and out of direct public contact until a descision is made.

My point is...  until their case is heard, they have no rights, no privlages, nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an American from across the pond living in the colonies I am saddened to hear your words.  I always thought the Brits had a good grip on things and we may learn from your example.</p>
<p>We have learned something.  We have learned to be cautious in granting political asylum to all who have migrated here legally or illegally.</p>
<p>What enrages me and concerns me is the disrespect of men and women in uniform.  We (the silent majority who support men in women in uniform) respect the views of others even if we are not in agreement. However, how can you respect those who show no respect for people in uniform?  To respect that view&#8230; spitting on a person who is trying to give back to their country is an oximoron.  They want respect but  refuse to show any themselves???</p>
<p>For their own safety, ayslum seekers should be held in detention, out of direct public contact until their case has been heard. Asylum seekers shouldn&#8217;t be given any right of the host nation until a descision about their case has been reached.<br /><b>References : </b><br />If an asylum seeker is fleeing their country for their own safety, doesn&#8217;t the host nation have an obligation to provide that safety until a descision about their case has been reached. And&#8230; should the host nations keep the asylum seeker segragated and out of direct public contact until a descision is made.</p>
<p>My point is&#8230;  until their case is heard, they have no rights, no privlages, nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: manforallseasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>manforallseasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you think being in uniform and parading your unlawful terror upon people in other countries makes a real contribution. You nutter.

And you think all asylum seekers are parasites, whileyu are the one murdering and robbing from people in their own countries abroad, you moron.

And you are not aware that the wars you create and take part in are not responsible for people needing to seek a safe place elsewhere, you really are army material.

Dumb, in uniform, with a gun and killing innocent people aboad, and then you complain of them coming here.

Are you totally without a brain. When yu leave the army, join the BNP, you will feel right at home there, with all the other mindless yobs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you think being in uniform and parading your unlawful terror upon people in other countries makes a real contribution. You nutter.</p>
<p>And you think all asylum seekers are parasites, whileyu are the one murdering and robbing from people in their own countries abroad, you moron.</p>
<p>And you are not aware that the wars you create and take part in are not responsible for people needing to seek a safe place elsewhere, you really are army material.</p>
<p>Dumb, in uniform, with a gun and killing innocent people aboad, and then you complain of them coming here.</p>
<p>Are you totally without a brain. When yu leave the army, join the BNP, you will feel right at home there, with all the other mindless yobs.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: silverfoxcb7</title>
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		<dc:creator>silverfoxcb7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good for u mate run for office and change the system&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good for u mate run for office and change the system<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Ollie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you I am sick of them being allowed in to find they want to kill us.My husband works abroad due to lack of unemployment I do not blame asylum seekers it happens to be the line of work he his in.He works in Libya &amp; thanks to that country we have kept a roof over our heads &amp; yes I have plenty of muslim friends who do not want to blow us up.There is thousands of libians who come here to our universities paid by there companies.When there courses end they go back to Libya.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you I am sick of them being allowed in to find they want to kill us.My husband works abroad due to lack of unemployment I do not blame asylum seekers it happens to be the line of work he his in.He works in Libya &amp; thanks to that country we have kept a roof over our heads &amp; yes I have plenty of muslim friends who do not want to blow us up.There is thousands of libians who come here to our universities paid by there companies.When there courses end they go back to Libya.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: francis f</title>
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		<dc:creator>francis f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i served in the military and when i left i was very nearly living on the streets the reason behind it was that i wasnt a high enough profile case to recieve emergency housing.
so fight for queen and country pay tax and national insurance but dont ask for anything when you do leave because its all tied up in other things such as....... oh yes asylum seekers working cash in hand and recieving benefits and a free house and food, what a great country.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i served in the military and when i left i was very nearly living on the streets the reason behind it was that i wasnt a high enough profile case to recieve emergency housing.<br />
so fight for queen and country pay tax and national insurance but dont ask for anything when you do leave because its all tied up in other things such as&#8230;&#8230;. oh yes asylum seekers working cash in hand and recieving benefits and a free house and food, what a great country.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: vdv_desantnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>vdv_desantnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it was the same when I came back from Bosnia and all the little b*****ds that had been shooting at me all have houses and cars and mobile phones and of course I got SO much help from the government (in case you couldnt tell im being sarcastic)&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it was the same when I came back from Bosnia and all the little b*****ds that had been shooting at me all have houses and cars and mobile phones and of course I got SO much help from the government (in case you couldnt tell im being sarcastic)<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: singlecell_amoeba</title>
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		<dc:creator>singlecell_amoeba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such wanton cruelty to the comma, the full stop and the apostrophe.

Anyway - no, I don&#039;t agree with you. Asylum seekers are eligible for no more benefits than an unemployed briton. Employers are free to hire the person who most suits their requirements, whether they were born here or not. Immigrants with jobs contribute to the economy by way of taxation. The vast majority of Britain&#039;s benefit recipients are chronically-unemployable british, who&#039;ve never contributed a bean in their lives.

People &quot;can&#039;t get a job&quot; because they&#039;re not as good as the other applicants. An immigrant doesn&#039;t &quot;steal&quot; a job - the employer gives it to them over the other guy. To use the word &quot;steal&quot; would imply that the job would belong to any given applicant by default, which is not the case.

So no, I don&#039;t agree with you, because you&#039;re flat-out wrong.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such wanton cruelty to the comma, the full stop and the apostrophe.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; no, I don&#8217;t agree with you. Asylum seekers are eligible for no more benefits than an unemployed briton. Employers are free to hire the person who most suits their requirements, whether they were born here or not. Immigrants with jobs contribute to the economy by way of taxation. The vast majority of Britain&#8217;s benefit recipients are chronically-unemployable british, who&#8217;ve never contributed a bean in their lives.</p>
<p>People &quot;can&#8217;t get a job&quot; because they&#8217;re not as good as the other applicants. An immigrant doesn&#8217;t &quot;steal&quot; a job &#8211; the employer gives it to them over the other guy. To use the word &quot;steal&quot; would imply that the job would belong to any given applicant by default, which is not the case.</p>
<p>So no, I don&#8217;t agree with you, because you&#8217;re flat-out wrong.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: trucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>trucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>part of this undercover war political warfare is to rape and plunder countries, britain is plundering poland of the talent poland needs to biuld herself up, by bringing them here, like the ancient israelites they are being scattered from their homelands, the brits are also scattering because of the mess made in their homeland, the manipulation here is to rid nations of their own sences of loyalty to their own, this makes those nations easy to capture and keep under control, for the new one world order, this is done by convincing all, that money is god. and one would do better elsewhere, the e. u. just has to make sure the leaders of these nations are given ample gravytrain shares to help them surrender easyer. the immigrant himself who is probably broke, is just anouther manipulated being. its strategic warfare to weeken the nations of their heart and soul, and make them economic baffoons.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>part of this undercover war political warfare is to rape and plunder countries, britain is plundering poland of the talent poland needs to biuld herself up, by bringing them here, like the ancient israelites they are being scattered from their homelands, the brits are also scattering because of the mess made in their homeland, the manipulation here is to rid nations of their own sences of loyalty to their own, this makes those nations easy to capture and keep under control, for the new one world order, this is done by convincing all, that money is god. and one would do better elsewhere, the e. u. just has to make sure the leaders of these nations are given ample gravytrain shares to help them surrender easyer. the immigrant himself who is probably broke, is just anouther manipulated being. its strategic warfare to weeken the nations of their heart and soul, and make them economic baffoons.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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